John Maus hates record stores, later apologises


Pop philosopher John Maus has apologized after comments made about record stores in an interview with Pitchfork.

When quizzed about his favourite record stores, Maus, who just released a new album titled We Must Become the Pitiless Censors of Ourselves, replied: “You don’t know how happy it makes me that the days of the record store are coming to an end. $20 for an LP? Do you remember going to the record store and not getting what you want because there was no other place to get it? Now we can get it all for free, and I think that’s wonderful.

“There was always something really depressing to me about record stores and music equipment stores. There’s something oppressive about them, like the guy who looks you up and down and looks at what you’re buying. You’re bound up in exchange with the snobby clerk. So I’m glad they all have little “closed” signs on their doors now.”

Predictably this got The People of The Internet worked into a sweat, leading to various fans waving their real-life pitchforks on Twitter (one reaction, brought to our attention by Dummy, read “if john maus fell down a flight of stairs, i would drive 700 miles just to point and laugh at his stupid bleelding [sic] skull”).

Maus has since verified his statement, though he didn’t take the time to use any paragraph breaks which is pretty poor form for an academic:


I wish everyone who is (rightfully) upset about my Pitchfork “guest list” would grant me the benefit of the doubt, but I suppose that is too much to ask seeing as how I did come off so incredibly mean. I can’t understand why anyone would think I was referring to the small DIY record shops of the world (the only type that would carry my records in the first place, and many of which I have played in) and not the Megastores of the world, but I guess I didn’t make that clear enough. For whatever it is worth now, the only reason I didn’t make that clear enough was because I foolishly supposed anyone reading the “guest list” would grant that I was referring to the latter and not the former. I mean, what could anyone possibly have against the small DIY record stores of the world (unless they worked for one of the big ones)? If anything, by saying “I’m glad to see [big] record stores closing down” I imagined I was speaking on behalf of small DIY record stores everywhere! What I’d ask anyone who is (rightfully) upset to remember is that the “guest list” was torn unrecognizably from its context as a telephone call. The interviewer asked me what my favorite record store was, and I jokingly responded “torrents.com” or something like that, laughing about how wonderful it is that music and movies are becoming easier and easier to get for free. I then explained to him that where I grew up we had none of these little DIY type stores but only the big chains, and that I once worked in a Megastore and it was very unpleasant. Finally, I began to go on about the experience, which I cannot imagine I am alone in having, of being looked up-and-down by a snobby clerk when purchasing a record, or of not having enough money to get all the records one wants. I thought all of this would get laughs of identification, not accusations of my wanting small record store owners to die penniless! (Why would anyone, especially a musician, want this?) I hope those little store owners would grant me that I wasn’t talking about them. But perhaps the damage is done. Finally, I just want anyone who is (rightfully) upset to know, that whenever I get up on the “platforms” offered in interviews and so on, I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus. Even if it is a little too naive or too utopian of me, I don’t see what is wrong with trying imagine a world where we share everything with each other for free. I always joke with the promoters and the labels about the contradictions involved in doing this from our standpoint, and I guess I just thought I could do it with the record stores as well. If what I said came across as anything other than this desire then I can only assure you that that was not my intent. The fact that anyone would react to anything I say is still a novelty to me, and I’m afraid I’ve made a terrible use of that novelty.


So yes, we know John Maus doesn’t really hate record stores, and he also didn’t really apologize. But it makes for a good title.

  • Ahoyskin

    Having worked in both, it’s clear he was speaking of DIY clerks as the megastore clerks have no clue what you’re buying most of the time.

  • trumper

    Actually lost respect for him after the “apology”, not the original comments.

  • Ayhoyhoy

    ROFL

  • Marley’s Boab

    Who is John Maus?

  • Brego

    the second most stupid thing I read this week right after zomby’s THE WIRE interview. Poor johnny mauser got intimidated in the evil record stores! What about bookstores?

  • My tatoo is cooler than yours

    one this is for sure:such a twat of person is the fucking karaoke queen….you need mediacl tratment Ms Maus

  • De Selby

    What percentage of all the people bitching about John Maus are still going out spending money on records?? 

    Poor judgement by him, but the response is a load of sanctimonious BS. 

    This is the future of interviews, people afraid to express a personal opinion incase the twitterati turns on them. 

    It’s a non-story. Pathetic.

  • Mikesimons4

    I think he is right about sharing things for free. Let’s not pretend it is incredibly hard to download music for no cost. Having websites like FACT and p4k make it easy to pick up on the best releases because you learn to trust their tastes (or you move on to a different magazine), but at the end of the day it still makes no sense to purchase an album without hearing it. Besides, most of us are good enough people to end up purchasing something we like in some form or another (LP, CD, iTunes, concert, t-shirt etc.)

  • Tam

    BACKTRACK!

    New albums good.

  • yasdnilmac

    He actually apologized on Twitter. He tweeted “Sorry everyone.”

  • Anon

    it’s okay. you’re a talentless hack so they feeling is mutual. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    John Maus, I applaud you for going out on a limb, it can be a lonely place in a world of Internet hacks and trolls. I got what you were trying to say. It’s not about the “end of things” such as record stores, it’s about a total lack of an intellectual commitment to make things work for musicians and music fans. I write about it all the time, but as you’ve discovered the haters start hating immediately so a real conversation and discussion can never be had.

    Plough on my friend.

    Dave Allen, Gang of Four.

  • jose maria martin

     The thing is that it cannot be debate when the new format it does not even exists.I´m not going to download a record ,thas for sure(legal or illegal) but i´d would buy records directlly from artists and record labels(something that i do). By the way whats wrong with record stores?Picadilly,Sounds of the universe,Clone,aquarius records ..all of them have made my world a better place(and they will be).Sorry i have been into record stores for more than 20 years so i can even considerate paying for something that i cannot hold in my hand like a cd or a vinyl.Also Mr Allen as a member of such a legendary and influential group you have been part of an world changing era in music so you must recognize how artificial this new internet based  culture is.Its sad for me that music is an integral part of that fake culture nowadays.Its also depressing for me that this wholle gang of new music fans are into it because its free and not because they have an honest passion for it.I dont want records for free,there is no MF blog that is going to tell me what records to listen and yes i want real records.THere is something wrong with that Mr allen?By the way i really doubt that you had the same views if we still were in 1979 when you and you boys were changing the face of music…Tha´s the diference beetween the original boys(you nad you people) and the copy(an certain LCD that even my mother have it in their ipod)

  • jose maria martin

    i dont want records for free and i dont care about 90 percent of the new music coming out …i really dont believe in fast food methods.Sound clips are enough for me to judge if a must bouy or not arecord.By the way i dont mind to buy records that i dont like at first i know if the record is good im gonna like it at the end and that make for a very personal taste and a very critical ear.It have been like that with a lot of my favourite artists like sun ra,stark reality ,theo parrish(i did not liked him in 1999)

  • Caio

    Yes, he doesn’t like the fucking record stores. so??? is this a crime or what? why are u so offended? is it so wrong to be unhappy with the way music is exchanged / commercialized? i think you are trapped in a bubble and can’t (or don’t want to) see what’s going on outside.

  • http://twitter.com/The_Mirador The Mirador

    i dnt think its a good title

  • Finalmattasy

    I just spent on a couple Radiohead records that were marked up %100 above Amazon at my local record store.  Singularly because of “indy” media influence, I convinced myself that I was happy to support a local shop, haha.  I agree with this guy’s original sentiment.  
    For all the people that find some sense of community in paying extra and talking with the clerks and whatnot, I’m happy for you.  But for me, I can have better conversations online, with friends and at venues about music.Rags, gear shops and light-posts can promote shows.  I’d actually rather pay a small sub fee to have a site that quick-linked new stuff to be ordered straight from labels.  
    Artists should get funds, not opinionated middle-man shop owners.  

    Empire Records is a dated movie, hello!!

    The only loss I feel is not being able to get local artist’s records collectively.  But even then, it’s cooler to get them at a show, from the guys, with more money in their pockets.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5M5LQRF2YI7VBW2MERDEU7REZA Danny D

    haha, that’s fucking awesome. he shouldn’t have taken that comment back. he makes a great point. i wasted tons of money as said shit stores.

    “The fact that anyone would react to anything I say is still a
    novelty to me, and I’m afraid I’ve made a terrible use of that novelty.”that’s an amazing quote. if you don’t know who he is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMku-GbafEg

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