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	<title>Comments on: The Essential&#8230; 4AD</title>
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		<title>By: Frederik Blieck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederik Blieck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that the current is an embarrassment to the legacy of the label. Allthough I&#039;m still following music closely I can&#039;t find anything worth ifollowing on the roster. The people at 4AD better take some new inspiration from labels that actually matter : Captured tracks, Forest Family, Mexican Summer, etc. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that the current is an embarrassment to the legacy of the label. Allthough I&#8217;m still following music closely I can&#8217;t find anything worth ifollowing on the roster. The people at 4AD better take some new inspiration from labels that actually matter : Captured tracks, Forest Family, Mexican Summer, etc. </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew McKinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew McKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree re: The Wolfgang Press - I&#039;d have to put their &#039;Legendary WGP And Other Tall Stories&#039; compilation in, for sure. 

Disagree on TMC - I think the first album is more varied and has a raw beauty, but &#039;Song To The Siren&#039; unfairly overshadows everything else Ivo did, and &#039;Filigree...&#039; is a better reflection of his contributions. &#039;A Heart Of Glass&#039; is stunning.Colourbox album was a cracker - I still listen to it and revel in it&#039;s enduring unfashionableness, then and now - but not really representative of the label, so much?BTW: are you Martyn Young from Colourbox, then? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree re: The Wolfgang Press &#8211; I&#8217;d have to put their &#8216;Legendary WGP And Other Tall Stories&#8217; compilation in, for sure. </p>
<p>Disagree on TMC &#8211; I think the first album is more varied and has a raw beauty, but &#8216;Song To The Siren&#8217; unfairly overshadows everything else Ivo did, and &#8216;Filigree&#8230;&#8217; is a better reflection of his contributions. &#8216;A Heart Of Glass&#8217; is stunning.Colourbox album was a cracker &#8211; I still listen to it and revel in it&#8217;s enduring unfashionableness, then and now &#8211; but not really representative of the label, so much?BTW: are you Martyn Young from Colourbox, then? </p>
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		<title>By: Pepe Garcia Camil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pepe Garcia Camil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to disagree with some here. Yes, after HNIA were kicked out, 4AD went totally into hibernation with pointless releases (Cuba?) but the past 2, 3 years they have awakened with truly great artists... independent if they are american or not. The good music is still there. Is it as avant-garde as it was in the 80&#039;s... deffo not,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to disagree with some here. Yes, after HNIA were kicked out, 4AD went totally into hibernation with pointless releases (Cuba?) but the past 2, 3 years they have awakened with truly great artists&#8230; independent if they are american or not. The good music is still there. Is it as avant-garde as it was in the 80&#8242;s&#8230; deffo not,</p>
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		<title>By: Martyn Young</title>
		<link>http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/30/the-essential-4ad/comment-page-1/#comment-29566</link>
		<dc:creator>Martyn Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d certainly disagree with your description of Dif Juz&#039;s music as &#039;unrelenting politeness&#039; which is fairly lazy really unless you&#039;ve heard the rest of their albeit limited output, for instance the &#039;From The Trees&#039; EP on said label. You also failed to mention anything by the great Wolfgang Press, and put up &#039;Filigree And Shadow&#039; by This Mortal Coil, which is inferior in scope to the first TMC LP, featuring as it does, the milestone &#039;Song To The Siren&#039;.  You could have also mentioned the Colourbox LP &#039;proper&#039; with tracks like &#039;Manic 2&#039; and &#039;Edit The Dragon&#039; which were probably more froward looking than the M.A.R.R.S project although which was, I admit, highly influential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d certainly disagree with your description of Dif Juz&#8217;s music as &#8216;unrelenting politeness&#8217; which is fairly lazy really unless you&#8217;ve heard the rest of their albeit limited output, for instance the &#8216;From The Trees&#8217; EP on said label. You also failed to mention anything by the great Wolfgang Press, and put up &#8216;Filigree And Shadow&#8217; by This Mortal Coil, which is inferior in scope to the first TMC LP, featuring as it does, the milestone &#8216;Song To The Siren&#8217;.  You could have also mentioned the Colourbox LP &#8216;proper&#8217; with tracks like &#8216;Manic 2&#8242; and &#8216;Edit The Dragon&#8217; which were probably more froward looking than the M.A.R.R.S project although which was, I admit, highly influential.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew McKinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew McKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed reading that. It&#039;s nice to see that first DCD album, and &#039;Sleeps With The Fishes&#039; [which I&#039;ve loved since 1988!] and Rema-Rema. Please buy them, more people.

I&#039;d say that the EPs compilation is a better starting point for the Cocteau Twins, and that the Dif Juz &#039;HuReMics&#039; compilation is better [less &#039;polite&#039;]. 

Still, cheers. That was nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed reading that. It&#8217;s nice to see that first DCD album, and &#8216;Sleeps With The Fishes&#8217; [which I've loved since 1988!] and Rema-Rema. Please buy them, more people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that the EPs compilation is a better starting point for the Cocteau Twins, and that the Dif Juz &#8216;HuReMics&#8217; compilation is better [less 'polite']. </p>
<p>Still, cheers. That was nice.</p>
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		<title>By: CrowleyHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrowleyHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see AR Kane anywhere other than comments. Fact, you be fucking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see AR Kane anywhere other than comments. Fact, you be fucking up.</p>
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		<title>By: T Peberdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Peberdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a bad effort of summarising the best years of 4ad. But describing Clan of Xymox as forgettable (having made 2 of the labels best albums!!!) and completely missing X Mal Deutscland, Modern English &amp; Bauhaus? How sad it was to see the start of the demise of the best label ever with the signing of the American altenative? groups (Pixies and Throwing Muses, I&#039;m not saying they are rubbish, but they weren&#039;t a patch on what had gone before them). If you&#039;re interested in the great bands who were on 4ad, it&#039;s also worth checking out the American label Projekt who have had loads of outstanding groups on their label http://www.projekt.com/ A very similar label to the days of when 4ad released many of the best ever records. Personally I rate Treasure as the best Cocteaus Twins album, actually the best album ever, full stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad effort of summarising the best years of 4ad. But describing Clan of Xymox as forgettable (having made 2 of the labels best albums!!!) and completely missing X Mal Deutscland, Modern English &amp; Bauhaus? How sad it was to see the start of the demise of the best label ever with the signing of the American altenative? groups (Pixies and Throwing Muses, I&#8217;m not saying they are rubbish, but they weren&#8217;t a patch on what had gone before them). If you&#8217;re interested in the great bands who were on 4ad, it&#8217;s also worth checking out the American label Projekt who have had loads of outstanding groups on their label <a href="http://www.projekt.com/ A" rel="nofollow">http://www.projekt.com/ A</a> very similar label to the days of when 4ad released many of the best ever records. Personally I rate Treasure as the best Cocteaus Twins album, actually the best album ever, full stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbgoodwillie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbgoodwillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Lynch origianally hired Badalamenti to knock off the TMC cover of REMA REMA&#039;s Fond Affections post-rebuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Lynch origianally hired Badalamenti to knock off the TMC cover of REMA REMA&#8217;s Fond Affections post-rebuff.</p>
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		<title>By: OPR8R</title>
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		<dc:creator>OPR8R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ the definition of a music hoarder. you&#039;re not really listening, you&#039;re just consuming because you have unlimited access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ the definition of a music hoarder. you&#8217;re not really listening, you&#8217;re just consuming because you have unlimited access.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Dodecahedron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Dodecahedron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha you dumbass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha you dumbass</p>
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