As ever, Diplo wants to go toward the money.

In an new interview with Billboard, Diplo, who recently beefed with Zedd over an M&M’s commercial, says that “[t]he DJ world is the corniest fucking group of people.”

He continues: “We’re not celebrities, we’re not famous for any good reason. We’re just … really lame. Besides people like Dillon Francis, who makes fun of the whole thing, or Calvin Harris, it’s a sinking ship. It’s a really lame culture. I’m sad that I’m part of it, but I play the game.”

Diplo also talked about why Beyoncé is the only artist he’s produced for in the past year: “When we put out a song with Beyoncé, cool, we’ll get a fee, we’ll get some [publishing] splits, but Beyoncé is going to make a billion dollars touring it. If I make a song and it’s my song, like ‘Lean On,’ we’re going to make money off the synchs, the Spotify and we get to headline festivals on it. That’s the model I want to explore.”

Looks like Diplo is sticking with “really lame culture” then. For what it’s worth, there’s something to be said about being a person who knows exactly what music makes the party work and continuing. #NotAllDJs

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