âAll I wanna do with this record is say to people, look, I know Iâm not the only one who feels like this. But you donât have to be afraid. You donât have to expect that youâre going to get an immediate return from saying these things and that the world is gonna change. Just say it, just voice your discontent. Thatâs all it is.â
Jam City is back and â you guessed it â heâs got something to say. Three years after Classical Curves emerged from the post-post-dubstep landscape to flag up a fresh direction in UK club music through his alien, distinctly unhuman vision of the dance floor, the producer born Jack Latham has made a drastic about-turn. Disillusioned by DJ culture and frustrated with other artistsâ silence on â well, on just about everything, he resolved to start again from a different angle, and build his own soapbox if he must.
The barbed, lustrous soundworld of his debut album had become âredundantâ as he struggled to engage with the changes he was seeing in the world and in himself. âIt couldnât quite get there emotionally,â says Latham. âI think the beauty of the anonymity of electronic music â âoh, you donât need to know where Iâm fromâ â has maybe got a bit out of control, where we donât have to say anything, you donât need to know anything about us at all.â
His own experiences in the music industry only added fuel to the fire. âI think sometimes being around the âDJ worldâ can be fucking terrible,â he laughs. âThereâs a kind of oppressive masculine energy in it that just wears you out, and thatâs just if youâre a guy. Itâs fucking exhausting, and it makes you think thereâs a kind of energy thatâs missing here. It reorientates you â like, what do I love in music? I love music that touches me emotionally, but thatâs still hard-hitting and rhythmic and all these things that club music can be. In a certain corner of the shows I was playing, even though they were pretty diverse, I was feeling that I needed to make a certain sensitivity my priority.â
The result is Dream A Garden, a record of painterly fragments and peeling edges, wheezing synths and â the real surprise â Lathamâs own voice, half-buried in the mix. Itâs one of the most dramatic and fully-realised metamorphoses you could imagine from a musician whoâs only on his second album. Thereâs an obvious beauty to the record, but itâs of an ad hoc, transient kind; the beauty of weeds breaking through cement or a faded family photograph, like the Japanese concept of âwabi-sabiâ where the passing of time confers on objects a particular appeal. From the disjointed, echo-laden pop of first single âUnhappyâ to the soft-focus soul of closing track âProudâ, the whole album feels like a rejection of the precision-tooled, steel-and-glass urbanism of Classical Curves, and a re-insertion of the living, breathing, fucking, shitting, failing human into its antiseptic landscape; a âshout backâ, as Latham describes it, against a world of pessimism and greed.
At his suggestion, we meet at Highgate Cemetery on a bright winter morning to meander around the graves of the famous and forgotten. The former art student is shrouded in a baggy trench coat spotted with safety-pinned, hand-painted slogans (âLOVE IS RESISTANCEâ, âPROTEST & SURVIVEâ), which he insists he wears in civvy life too, not just at photo shoots. After paying our respects to the cemeteryâs roll call of deceased pranksters (Malcolm McLaren, Jeremy Beadle), we circle round to the top of the hill and the huge, unblinking bust of Karl Marx. I half expect a lecture on the labour theory of value, or at least a quick burst of the âInternationaleâ, but as one canât trust music journalists to be lefties anymore Iâm not surprised Latham leaves it to the big bronze face in front of us to signal the theme of todayâs conversation. The spectre of communism is a topic Latham hasnât been scared to put on the table in the build-up to Dream A Garden, appearing in the video for âUnhappyâ wearing a jacket emblazoned with âCLASS WARâ while slogans flashed up declaring âANOTHER WORLD IS POSSIBLEâ.
âSometimes being around the âDJ worldâ can be fucking terrible.â
If Classical Curves offered an ambiguous, almost fatalistic assessment of the bloodless rituals of consumerism, Dream A Garden marches out with banners raised, determined not to be co-opted by the dreaded realists. âThe first album deals with the surface of the very oppressively capitalist, consumerist, high-tech culture we live in,â he tells me once weâve found a pub with heating, âand I think thereâs a danger sometimes that it can feel a little bit too complicit with that kind of world that [Iâm] representing. It became really important to me, and necessary for me, to draw a line in the sand and be like, no, this isnât really okay.â
Where his first album âskimmed along the surface and held a mirror upâ to society, Dream A Garden âshouts something backâ, he explains â but itâs not an escape. âWeâre all complicit in it,â acknowledges Latham. âTo play shows and tour for this record, thatâs still part of a capitalist system. Thereâs nothing I can do in my life â well, thereâs very little I can do in my life that isnât contributing to that in some way. Itâs the same with all of us. But I think itâs about trying to carve a space out, trying to dream something that isnât colonised yet by all of that.
And as the gap between the haves and the have-nots grows to a chasm, even the music industry â long one of the twin ladders to money and prestige for talented working class kids, along with football â is becoming impenetrable.
âThereâs a kind of disparity between the people that are involved in music whoâve grown up with money, and people who havenât necessarily grown up with massively privileged backgrounds,â says Latham, who was brought up in the suburbs of south London. âI do feel that disparity is growing a little bit, in my limited experience, and I feel like we can all relate to the fact that thereâs massive unfairness in the world. Things are really bad right now. Theyâre really bad, and it makes you feel a responsibility to say, hold on a second, this isnât right â we need to remember who the enemy is. Itâs the people with money, and itâs the people with power, and we need to start calling them out on it.â
Realising he would have to find those words for himself, Latham began to write poems to go along with the new tracks, eventually adding his own voice. âThe lyrics go a long way to explaining what my stance is,â he points out. âThatâs harder with instrumental stuff, obviously, so that was another reason why it gravitated towards having vocals. Although the lyrics are quite abstract â theyâre poems effectively, so itâs not polemical in that sense.
âIt was really not a conscious thing, but it was exactly the direction it needed to go, and I think the signs were there on the first record that this might be what happens next. Thereâs a lot of guitar on Classical Curves, but itâs just processed differently. When Alex [Sushon, aka Night Slugs boss Bok Bok] first heard it he was like, âah obviously!ââ
The retooled Jam City outed himself last October with âUnhappyâ, a bold choice for the first taste of the album and one which polarised fans and critics alike, who variously panned it as âhigh-end neo trip hopâ, drawing unfavourable comparisons with Jai Paul and Blood Orange, or praised its unexpectedly gooey textures and heart-on-sleeve emotional punch. Was he worried about exposing himself in this way, by projecting his voice into the world?
âNot really. I mean, if you make music and you sing songs, or even if you donât sing, youâve got to put yourself 100% into it emotionally. I wrote them and I sang them, so I canât really go back. You may as well just go the whole way. So this is what these songs are about, theyâre about struggling to love and be sensitive in a world that I donât think really values those things, and trying not to be greedy in a world that values greed.â
Yet the words on Dream A Garden are often lost in the mix, obscured by his intricate palimpsest of textures and timbres. Instead heâs chosen to publish the lyrics in a separate booklet to accompany the album. Why hide the words if theyâre so important?
âThereâs a sonic choice,â says Latham. âI like things sounding buried, and the tracks are just overdubs on overdubs on overdubs, so thereâs a lot of layers and textures in there. I like that the voice isnât part of a hierarchy, the voice doesnât sit on top and shout âyou should feel like thisâ or âyou should do thisâ. I like that itâs ambiguous. But if you want to go further then the lyrics are right there in front of you. Itâs quite nice to have that separation.â
Latham is hardly the first musician Iâve met who would describe his work as political, but the fact I considered putting scare quotes around the word âpoliticalâ just then perhaps points to just how difficult it is now, especially in electronic, typically non-vocal music, to go ahead and nail your colours to the mast. When rock dinosaurs complain that younger generations of musicians have nothing to say, or despair at our supposed apathy, itâs because they (shouting from their comfortably paid-off homes, of course) just cannot understand how distant the idea of change can seem from our perspective. It would be very difficult to make a political protest record today with the same earnest fervour as you hear on records from the â70s and â80s, I suggest to Latham.
âYeah. And I donât think itâs that people are asleep, as if we need to be woken up â everyone knows that weâre fucked.â
Itâs what some people call capitalist realism, the feeling that itâs impossible to say or do anything that seems effective â but then you donât need to have opinions, or speak up for the things you care about.
âExactly, and itâs like, silence equals violence â if weâre not talking about this, then whatâs going on? Whoâs saying anything? When I was growing up I loved Nirvana, as Iâm sure a lot of people did, and I was into punk and stuff like that â well, I still am. I grew up as someone who didnât feel they could fit in anywhere, as Iâm sure a lot of people have done as well, but I had a certain lifeline with the music I listened to that expressed solidarity with people who felt alienated by the culture that we live in.â
Was that through punk specifically, or other music too?
âYeah, like Prince as well, everything contributed to it. And I guess if I was growing up now, if I was maybe eight or nine years younger, I wonder where Iâd find that? I mean, maybe Iâd find it in the same place, because I was too young when Nirvana were initially around, but these things get passed down.â
But we canât just leave it to Nirvana to educate every generation of teenagers, fine idea though that may be.
âExactly, we need new people and I just think, fuck it â if no one else is gonna talk about this and try to offer an alternative and say look, the culture we live in is incredibly violent and alienating and disrespectful to women and generates fear of others, then that isnât right.â His voice broadens into a stronger Estuary accent as he becomes more impassioned. âAnd if you feel alienated by that, if you feel alienated by the world you live in and you donât fit in, then youâre not the only one feeling like that, and there is another way â youâre allowed to imagine something different.â
Yet when people do try to make those statements, I suggest, often the more sincere they are, the more theyâre disparaged by people who perhaps fear that kind of honesty and what it would demand from them â even by people who youâd think would share those views. Itâs a strange fear of sincerity.
âYeah, youâre right. The world, as a kind of coping mechanism to the shit weâre in, can turn very cynical, which I completely understand as a response â like, how else do you deal with this? But you donât have to be cynical, you know. I think thatâs important.â
“Things are really bad right now. It makes you feel a responsibility to say, hold on a second, this isnât right.”
Watching Latham lurking among the gravestones during the photo shoot reminds me of the gothic mood that seems to pervade Dream A Garden; not in the musical sense a la Siouxsie or Bauhaus, but in the literary or even architectural sense: gloomy, sensual, oblique, decaying.
âThe gothic to me is outside of whatâs normal, it lives in the shadows,â he offers when I quiz him on it later. âI feel the world that we live in is very bright and overexposed, and I think as a way to cope with that I necessarily want to⌠thereâs a certain mysteriousness. Dreams become more tangible in the darkness, in things that we associate with gothic. Thereâs a long history of anticapitalist critiques framed as gothic.â
The spectre of communism?
âYeah, all that stuff.â
Iâm pretty sure there are some vampires in Marxâs Capital too, I suggest. (Later I look it up and find that capital itself is described as âvampire-likeâ dead labour that âsucks living labourâ.) The gothic mood of the record may be subtle, but thereâs a sense of asymmetry to it thatâs striking, especially in comparison to the âclassicalâ order of the previous album. Slow-burners like âGood Lads, Bad Ladsâ and âBlack Fridayâ donât have a clear centre; instead they swirl and eddy like a gathering storm, bleeding into each other.
âA lot of it was written as songs before being produced, but then the production gets very messy,â explains Latham. âI donât really have a process, itâs hard to describe â just a lot of overdubbing and a lot of layers, and things begin to sound swollen and heavy and slow. Itâs a really slow record.â
Classical Curves took its cues from the functional logic of the club, drawing particularly on the jackhammer rhythms of Jersey club and the spartan architecture of grime. On several occasions back then he told interviewers that he was aiming to become still more minimalist in his approach. What happened to that?
âYeah, I got a bit bored of that! Been there, thereâs not a lot there,â he laughs. âIf you strip away all of it there is a song written underneath it all, but the layers and layers are almost building up this inertia to the world. Thatâs how it developed, in the studio. Iâm not that technical, I donât have a lot of equipment.â
The real stroke of genius hidden beneath the foggy layers of Dream A Garden is that thereâs nothing truly haphazard about its construction. The album is ânot a total break from the world of Classical Curves, but rather an inversion,â as he pointed out in a manifesto-like statement to accompany its announcement. In fact, itâs made from the very same software (Ableton) and limited equipment as its predecessor.
âItâs just the same samples I was using before but processed differently. Itâs from exactly the same toolbox,â he explains. âIâve been using the same little ÂŁ50 audio interface for the last five years. Itâs working with what I know rather than thinking, yeah, letâs get a ÂŁ2000 synth in. I canât really do any of that.â
“Itâs about not being pessimistic anymore.”
Heâll launch the album with with two events in London in March, a night at Corsica Studios where Jam City and the Night Slugs crew will be joined by Berlinâs similarly freethinking Janus collective (a suitable antidote to the âoppressive masculine energyâ of DJ culture), and a tiny solo show following his live debut at last yearâs Unsound Festival in Poland. Heâll be alone on stage, accompanied by his guitar, laptop, and the vertebrae-quivering might of the sound system.
âThe record is reformatted slightly for sound systems, so anything that feels a little bit murky on the record, or a little bit submerged, sounds quite hard hitting on the system,â he says. âBut theyâre the same songs, the same tempos. In my DJ sets I play a lot of 100bpm stuff, like rap and reggaeton and dancehall, and the record is roughly 100bpm too, so thereâs a relationship between the two which youâre going to see more of.â
Before we end our conversation, I want to know if Dream A Garden is ultimately intended as an optimistic record. Weâve been talking about hopelessness and about being complicit in a system we feel we canât fight, and on first impression the album seems to bear that out, with its track titles sighing âCrisisâ, âDamageâ, âUnhappyâ. But underneath that thereâs a sense of revelling in the idea of another world; a utopian longing thatâs the total inverse of Classical Curvesâ mechanised rationalism.
âIâm not saying what Iâm doing on this record is powerful enough, or that the shout back is loud enough, but itâs a start,â he offers. âI think itâs a start to just reorientate your practice and what you want to sing about and what you want to talk about to something thatâs a lot warmer, a lot more loving, a lot more sensitive.
âThat is the break from [Classical Curves]. Itâs about not being pessimistic anymore, trying to have some optimism, trying to dream something. Itâs just a dream, because I donât know what could happen after this, but itâs demanding the impossible â like, what if? And I think thatâs really important sometimes, even if we donât have the answers, to be like, yeah, but what if? Just dreaming something, imagining something that hasnât been thought of before.â