āAll I wanna do with this record is say to people, look, I know Iām not the only one who feels like this. But you donāt have to be afraid. You donāt have to expect that youāre going to get an immediate return from saying these things and that the world is gonna change. Just say it, just voice your discontent. Thatās all it is.ā
Jam City is back and ā you guessed it ā heās got something to say. Three years after Classical Curves emerged from the post-post-dubstep landscape to flag up a fresh direction in UK club music through his alien, distinctly unhuman vision of the dance floor, the producer born Jack Latham has made a drastic about-turn. Disillusioned by DJ culture and frustrated with other artistsā silence on ā well, on just about everything, he resolved to start again from a different angle, and build his own soapbox if he must.
The barbed, lustrous soundworld of his debut album had become āredundantā as he struggled to engage with the changes he was seeing in the world and in himself. āIt couldnāt quite get there emotionally,ā says Latham. āI think the beauty of the anonymity of electronic music ā āoh, you donāt need to know where Iām fromā ā has maybe got a bit out of control, where we donāt have to say anything, you donāt need to know anything about us at all.ā
His own experiences in the music industry only added fuel to the fire. āI think sometimes being around the āDJ worldā can be fucking terrible,ā he laughs. āThereās a kind of oppressive masculine energy in it that just wears you out, and thatās just if youāre a guy. Itās fucking exhausting, and it makes you think thereās a kind of energy thatās missing here. It reorientates you ā like, what do I love in music? I love music that touches me emotionally, but thatās still hard-hitting and rhythmic and all these things that club music can be. In a certain corner of the shows I was playing, even though they were pretty diverse, I was feeling that I needed to make a certain sensitivity my priority.ā
The result is Dream A Garden, a record of painterly fragments and peeling edges, wheezing synths and ā the real surprise ā Lathamās own voice, half-buried in the mix. Itās one of the most dramatic and fully-realised metamorphoses you could imagine from a musician whoās only on his second album. Thereās an obvious beauty to the record, but itās of an ad hoc, transient kind; the beauty of weeds breaking through cement or a faded family photograph, like the Japanese concept of āwabi-sabiā where the passing of time confers on objects a particular appeal. From the disjointed, echo-laden pop of first single āUnhappyā to the soft-focus soul of closing track āProudā, the whole album feels like a rejection of the precision-tooled, steel-and-glass urbanism of Classical Curves, and a re-insertion of the living, breathing, fucking, shitting, failing human into its antiseptic landscape; a āshout backā, as Latham describes it, against a world of pessimism and greed.
At his suggestion, we meet at Highgate Cemetery on a bright winter morning to meander around the graves of the famous and forgotten. The former art student is shrouded in a baggy trench coat spotted with safety-pinned, hand-painted slogans (āLOVE IS RESISTANCEā, āPROTEST & SURVIVEā), which he insists he wears in civvy life too, not just at photo shoots. After paying our respects to the cemeteryās roll call of deceased pranksters (Malcolm McLaren, Jeremy Beadle), we circle round to the top of the hill and the huge, unblinking bust of Karl Marx. I half expect a lecture on the labour theory of value, or at least a quick burst of the āInternationaleā, but as one canāt trust music journalists to be lefties anymore Iām not surprised Latham leaves it to the big bronze face in front of us to signal the theme of todayās conversation. The spectre of communism is a topic Latham hasnāt been scared to put on the table in the build-up to Dream A Garden, appearing in the video for āUnhappyā wearing a jacket emblazoned with āCLASS WARā while slogans flashed up declaring āANOTHER WORLD IS POSSIBLEā.
āSometimes being around the āDJ worldā can be fucking terrible.ā
If Classical Curves offered an ambiguous, almost fatalistic assessment of the bloodless rituals of consumerism, Dream A Garden marches out with banners raised, determined not to be co-opted by the dreaded realists. āThe first album deals with the surface of the very oppressively capitalist, consumerist, high-tech culture we live in,ā he tells me once weāve found a pub with heating, āand I think thereās a danger sometimes that it can feel a little bit too complicit with that kind of world that [Iām] representing. It became really important to me, and necessary for me, to draw a line in the sand and be like, no, this isnāt really okay.ā
Where his first album āskimmed along the surface and held a mirror upā to society, Dream A Garden āshouts something backā, he explains ā but itās not an escape. āWeāre all complicit in it,ā acknowledges Latham. āTo play shows and tour for this record, thatās still part of a capitalist system. Thereās nothing I can do in my life ā well, thereās very little I can do in my life that isnāt contributing to that in some way. Itās the same with all of us. But I think itās about trying to carve a space out, trying to dream something that isnāt colonised yet by all of that.
And as the gap between the haves and the have-nots grows to a chasm, even the music industry ā long one of the twin ladders to money and prestige for talented working class kids, along with football ā is becoming impenetrable.
āThereās a kind of disparity between the people that are involved in music whoāve grown up with money, and people who havenāt necessarily grown up with massively privileged backgrounds,ā says Latham, who was brought up in the suburbs of south London. āI do feel that disparity is growing a little bit, in my limited experience, and I feel like we can all relate to the fact that thereās massive unfairness in the world. Things are really bad right now. Theyāre really bad, and it makes you feel a responsibility to say, hold on a second, this isnāt right ā we need to remember who the enemy is. Itās the people with money, and itās the people with power, and we need to start calling them out on it.ā
Realising he would have to find those words for himself, Latham began to write poems to go along with the new tracks, eventually adding his own voice. āThe lyrics go a long way to explaining what my stance is,ā he points out. āThatās harder with instrumental stuff, obviously, so that was another reason why it gravitated towards having vocals. Although the lyrics are quite abstract ā theyāre poems effectively, so itās not polemical in that sense.
āIt was really not a conscious thing, but it was exactly the direction it needed to go, and I think the signs were there on the first record that this might be what happens next. Thereās a lot of guitar on Classical Curves, but itās just processed differently. When Alex [Sushon, aka Night Slugs boss Bok Bok] first heard it he was like, āah obviously!āā
The retooled Jam City outed himself last October with āUnhappyā, a bold choice for the first taste of the album and one which polarised fans and critics alike, who variously panned it as āhigh-end neo trip hopā, drawing unfavourable comparisons with Jai Paul and Blood Orange, or praised its unexpectedly gooey textures and heart-on-sleeve emotional punch. Was he worried about exposing himself in this way, by projecting his voice into the world?
āNot really. I mean, if you make music and you sing songs, or even if you donāt sing, youāve got to put yourself 100% into it emotionally. I wrote them and I sang them, so I canāt really go back. You may as well just go the whole way. So this is what these songs are about, theyāre about struggling to love and be sensitive in a world that I donāt think really values those things, and trying not to be greedy in a world that values greed.ā
Yet the words on Dream A Garden are often lost in the mix, obscured by his intricate palimpsest of textures and timbres. Instead heās chosen to publish the lyrics in a separate booklet to accompany the album. Why hide the words if theyāre so important?
āThereās a sonic choice,ā says Latham. āI like things sounding buried, and the tracks are just overdubs on overdubs on overdubs, so thereās a lot of layers and textures in there. I like that the voice isnāt part of a hierarchy, the voice doesnāt sit on top and shout āyou should feel like thisā or āyou should do thisā. I like that itās ambiguous. But if you want to go further then the lyrics are right there in front of you. Itās quite nice to have that separation.ā
Latham is hardly the first musician Iāve met who would describe his work as political, but the fact I considered putting scare quotes around the word āpoliticalā just then perhaps points to just how difficult it is now, especially in electronic, typically non-vocal music, to go ahead and nail your colours to the mast. When rock dinosaurs complain that younger generations of musicians have nothing to say, or despair at our supposed apathy, itās because they (shouting from their comfortably paid-off homes, of course) just cannot understand how distant the idea of change can seem from our perspective. It would be very difficult to make a political protest record today with the same earnest fervour as you hear on records from the ā70s and ā80s, I suggest to Latham.
āYeah. And I donāt think itās that people are asleep, as if we need to be woken up ā everyone knows that weāre fucked.ā
Itās what some people call capitalist realism, the feeling that itās impossible to say or do anything that seems effective ā but then you donāt need to have opinions, or speak up for the things you care about.
āExactly, and itās like, silence equals violence ā if weāre not talking about this, then whatās going on? Whoās saying anything? When I was growing up I loved Nirvana, as Iām sure a lot of people did, and I was into punk and stuff like that ā well, I still am. I grew up as someone who didnāt feel they could fit in anywhere, as Iām sure a lot of people have done as well, but I had a certain lifeline with the music I listened to that expressed solidarity with people who felt alienated by the culture that we live in.ā
Was that through punk specifically, or other music too?
āYeah, like Prince as well, everything contributed to it. And I guess if I was growing up now, if I was maybe eight or nine years younger, I wonder where Iād find that? I mean, maybe Iād find it in the same place, because I was too young when Nirvana were initially around, but these things get passed down.ā
But we canāt just leave it to Nirvana to educate every generation of teenagers, fine idea though that may be.
āExactly, we need new people and I just think, fuck it ā if no one else is gonna talk about this and try to offer an alternative and say look, the culture we live in is incredibly violent and alienating and disrespectful to women and generates fear of others, then that isnāt right.ā His voice broadens into a stronger Estuary accent as he becomes more impassioned. āAnd if you feel alienated by that, if you feel alienated by the world you live in and you donāt fit in, then youāre not the only one feeling like that, and there is another way ā youāre allowed to imagine something different.ā
Yet when people do try to make those statements, I suggest, often the more sincere they are, the more theyāre disparaged by people who perhaps fear that kind of honesty and what it would demand from them ā even by people who youād think would share those views. Itās a strange fear of sincerity.
āYeah, youāre right. The world, as a kind of coping mechanism to the shit weāre in, can turn very cynical, which I completely understand as a response ā like, how else do you deal with this? But you donāt have to be cynical, you know. I think thatās important.ā
“Things are really bad right now. It makes you feel a responsibility to say, hold on a second, this isnāt right.”
Watching Latham lurking among the gravestones during the photo shoot reminds me of the gothic mood that seems to pervade Dream A Garden; not in the musical sense a la Siouxsie or Bauhaus, but in the literary or even architectural sense: gloomy, sensual, oblique, decaying.
āThe gothic to me is outside of whatās normal, it lives in the shadows,ā he offers when I quiz him on it later. āI feel the world that we live in is very bright and overexposed, and I think as a way to cope with that I necessarily want to⦠thereās a certain mysteriousness. Dreams become more tangible in the darkness, in things that we associate with gothic. Thereās a long history of anticapitalist critiques framed as gothic.ā
The spectre of communism?
āYeah, all that stuff.ā
Iām pretty sure there are some vampires in Marxās Capital too, I suggest. (Later I look it up and find that capital itself is described as āvampire-likeā dead labour that āsucks living labourā.) The gothic mood of the record may be subtle, but thereās a sense of asymmetry to it thatās striking, especially in comparison to the āclassicalā order of the previous album. Slow-burners like āGood Lads, Bad Ladsā and āBlack Fridayā donāt have a clear centre; instead they swirl and eddy like a gathering storm, bleeding into each other.
āA lot of it was written as songs before being produced, but then the production gets very messy,ā explains Latham. āI donāt really have a process, itās hard to describe ā just a lot of overdubbing and a lot of layers, and things begin to sound swollen and heavy and slow. Itās a really slow record.ā
Classical Curves took its cues from the functional logic of the club, drawing particularly on the jackhammer rhythms of Jersey club and the spartan architecture of grime. On several occasions back then he told interviewers that he was aiming to become still more minimalist in his approach. What happened to that?
āYeah, I got a bit bored of that! Been there, thereās not a lot there,ā he laughs. āIf you strip away all of it there is a song written underneath it all, but the layers and layers are almost building up this inertia to the world. Thatās how it developed, in the studio. Iām not that technical, I donāt have a lot of equipment.ā
The real stroke of genius hidden beneath the foggy layers of Dream A Garden is that thereās nothing truly haphazard about its construction. The album is ānot a total break from the world of Classical Curves, but rather an inversion,ā as he pointed out in a manifesto-like statement to accompany its announcement. In fact, itās made from the very same software (Ableton) and limited equipment as its predecessor.
āItās just the same samples I was using before but processed differently. Itās from exactly the same toolbox,ā he explains. āIāve been using the same little Ā£50 audio interface for the last five years. Itās working with what I know rather than thinking, yeah, letās get a Ā£2000 synth in. I canāt really do any of that.ā
“Itās about not being pessimistic anymore.”
Heāll launch the album with with two events in London in March, a night at Corsica Studios where Jam City and the Night Slugs crew will be joined by Berlinās similarly freethinking Janus collective (a suitable antidote to the āoppressive masculine energyā of DJ culture), and a tiny solo show following his live debut at last yearās Unsound Festival in Poland. Heāll be alone on stage, accompanied by his guitar, laptop, and the vertebrae-quivering might of the sound system.
āThe record is reformatted slightly for sound systems, so anything that feels a little bit murky on the record, or a little bit submerged, sounds quite hard hitting on the system,ā he says. āBut theyāre the same songs, the same tempos. In my DJ sets I play a lot of 100bpm stuff, like rap and reggaeton and dancehall, and the record is roughly 100bpm too, so thereās a relationship between the two which youāre going to see more of.ā
Before we end our conversation, I want to know if Dream A Garden is ultimately intended as an optimistic record. Weāve been talking about hopelessness and about being complicit in a system we feel we canāt fight, and on first impression the album seems to bear that out, with its track titles sighing āCrisisā, āDamageā, āUnhappyā. But underneath that thereās a sense of revelling in the idea of another world; a utopian longing thatās the total inverse of Classical Curvesā mechanised rationalism.
āIām not saying what Iām doing on this record is powerful enough, or that the shout back is loud enough, but itās a start,ā he offers. āI think itās a start to just reorientate your practice and what you want to sing about and what you want to talk about to something thatās a lot warmer, a lot more loving, a lot more sensitive.
āThat is the break from [Classical Curves]. Itās about not being pessimistic anymore, trying to have some optimism, trying to dream something. Itās just a dream, because I donāt know what could happen after this, but itās demanding the impossible ā like, what if? And I think thatās really important sometimes, even if we donāt have the answers, to be like, yeah, but what if? Just dreaming something, imagining something that hasnāt been thought of before.ā


