Cave has a staggeringly hopeful outlook on life after tragedy.

Nick Cave has given his first interview since his son Arthur tragically fell to his death from a cliff in Brighton in July of 2015. The interview with newspaper The Australian comes in tandem with Cave and his band the Bad Seeds kicking off their tour in support of 2016’s excellent Skeleton Tree, playing a show at the Derwent Entertainment Centre in Hobart, Australia.

Cave released a documentary last year about the making of the album that also addressed his trauma called One More Time With Feeling. He made the film so he could avoid answering press questions about his son’s death. The support on social media for the film, however, helped Cave and his family feel a little bit less alone.

He explains this to The Australian, remarking: “The way the film seemed to open something very deep for people, and how so many people out there had lost people they loved, you know, just how many grievers there were – it was a very powerful feeling, and ultimately shifted something in me, and [my wife] Susie too, and stopped us feeling so completely hopeless all the time.”

He adds: “It was like we had done something good for Arthur, all of us, and had placed the memory of him up there in the stars.”

You can read the full interview here, if you are a subscriber to The Australian or The Wall Street Journal.

Read next: Nick Cave’s One More Time With Feeling is a heartbreaking portrait of unimaginable grief

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