A glimpse into Kanye’s creative mind circa Yeezus.

A 2013 interview with Kanye West that sees him discuss the X-rated appeal of J Dilla’s beats and growing up in Chicago has been shared in full for the first time.

During the 22-minute interview, which was filmed for the Stones Throw documentary Our Vinyl Weighs A Ton and uncovered by Hypebeast last night (March 7), Kanye recalls meeting J Dilla at Common’s house in LA.  “It felt like drugs,” he says of Dilla’s productions. “His music just sounded like good pussy.”

West goes on to detail his own production process, while also pointing out the parallels between fashion design and music making and the layering techniques that often apply to each discipline. “As hip-hop producers we were all designers in a way, so maybe I was like the Marc Jacobs of hip-hop,” he states, while equating Dilla with Margiela and Pete Rock with Jean-Paul Gaultier.

Elsewhere in the interview, The Life of Pablo artist talks about growing up in Chicago, while also previewing lyrics from ‘No More parties in LA,’ a song we wouldn’t hear until Pablo was released three years later.

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